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Challenging the centre (by Bob and Mary Hopkins)

Posted by: Andrew Wooding - 21 September 2009

Bob HopkinsA few weeks ago, Ben Edson wrote a blog on Share: Called to the centre? Ben expressed an extremely important view and one which expands on concerns that many have expressed at a movement that has been radical, then becoming suffocated by the institutional embrace.

It is a possibility that needs much serious consideration and assessment of what could be done in the areas in which this can be a real danger. However, at one level a response could be that this is the inevitable outcome of an "edge movement" that is effective and fruitful as it impacts and influences the centre ... the challenge being for new edge movements to arise that continually take us further and that in turn challenge the centre to further needed adaptation and flexibility.

We seem to remember that George Lings has long suggested that renewal movements can be likened to his beloved railways. A branch line being like a pioneering movement that starts from but initially is clearly separate and alongside the mainline (institutional centre), but if the traffic on it builds up, subsequently the mainline begins to divert and link to the branch line. Then he has always suggested that the need will be for another branch line. And this is probably just an analogy to illustrate the mechanism by which we observe the truth that Luther proclaimed that the church reforms herself and always is reforming (Ecclesia reformanda e semper reformanda est). 

Mary HopkinsAt another level there may be the question as to whether some pioneers are particularly motivated by being "out there, unrecognised, breaking new ground that most in the mainstream haven't woken up to". This could mean that whilst they are worried and feel motivated to "move further out" ... the fact that their efforts so far have played a part in how God is stimulating thousands of churches to begin to think beyond their fringe and initiate engagement with non-churched families, de-churched seekers, the homeless, addicts, dwellers in deprived urban estates etc. and that the institution is encouraging this and adapting structures accordingly, has to be fantastically good news - even if it looks domesticated to some.

Lastly I note the many responses to Ben's original piece. There is much important stuff there too. But I confess a slight disquiet that the focus seems to have shifted from an original concern about the domestication of a movement of radical mission to reach broken humanity and transform dysfunctional society, to a primary concern about me and who I am and whether the institution and its structures suits or fits me. I'm personally much less worried about that, sensing that we can mostly find ways around the mismatches in order to follow God's calling to radical mission, if we are flexible and set ourselves to it.

Bob and Mary Hopkins pioneered Anglican Church Planting Initiatives which they continue to lead. Alongside this, they are part-time members of the Archbishop's Fresh Expressions Team led by Graham Cray. They are also working in partnership with CMS for a mission movement.

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Comments

I agree it's not 'all about me'.....

Posted by Pam Smith on 22 September 09 - 21:44

... however, as one of the people who responded to Ben's original blog I'm struggling to work out which posts you feel derailed the discussion into the search for personal recognition and significance. I apologise if that's what I did - but, in my defence, material presented in a blog format is probably going to tend to elicit fairly free form, personal responses!

The issue about 'domestication' raises its head wherever one or two pioneers are gathered together. Reflecting on what you do and learning from it is a vital skill for anyone in ministry, and self awareness is surely a basic requirement. But I worry that people are being made self conscious rather than self aware, and feelings of insecurity are pushing us into creating a 'hierarchy of edginess' which is just another way of buying into the cultural norm that we must demonstrate 'success' in order to validate what we're doing - albeit success at being edgy!

I do wonder if there's a danger in talking too much and doing too little - which I think may be what you're saying as well. I know very few people who are doing pioneering work who would claim for themselves that they are doing anything very significant at all. The nature of working at the margins and edges it is that it feels tenuous and messy and any 'success' or recognition will usually be offset by many 'failures' and snubs.

At the moment a certain amount of perplexity seems to exist about how the structures that are being created to facilitate more 'edgy' ministry seem to tend to the opposite 'domestication' process. Some of this is frustration because as things grow and become more established they need a skill set that pioneers may feel they lack.

Perhaps we need to stop worrying so much about making the institutional structures reflect the precise nature of what people are trying to do, and focus much more on finding ways for the institution to resource what people are doing. We have been really successful at creating a new 'brand' of pioneer ministry, rather less successful in supporting and valuing those we have recognised as being called to it.

That, I think, is why discussions can end up being about 'me and who I am and whether the institutions fit or suit me'. It might sound self centred, but presuming we want people to come into relationship with the church - because it is Christ's body - as well as with Jesus - surely we do need to know what our own relationship is with her?

not enough time

Posted by Beth Keith on 23 September 09 - 09:43

I think there's also a question of time. When you're starting something on the edge and the wider church is not interested in what you're up to you have plenty of time to just get on with it.
My experience of trying to pioneer something whilst linking with the institution involved so much more time in meetings.
There's advantages and disadvantages to both but the reality of being part of institutional structures carries with it both support and responsibility and both of these take people away from the edge. But hopefully lead to more sustainability and wide reaching change.
If we can't get the support right for pioneers many will just get on with it outside of the structures.